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The smear campaign against Israel Insider


February 11, 2005

An Open Letter to Daniel Pipes, Steven Plaut, and Jonathan Tobin in response to their smear campaign against Israel Insider due to our decision to occasionally publish the writings of Barry Chamish. The correspondence from Pipes and his collaborators, mass-mailed to right-wing pundits including many Israel Insider columnists, are reprinted below, so readers can judge for themselves. The campaign also inveigled a leading big-paper columnist, a long-time colleague, who wrote to me and I responded candidly, as is reprinted below.

However, the campaign protagonists, without the columnist's permission, then circulated this private communication. In the end that may be for the best, as I stand behind my comments to the columnist and regret not a word of my defense of the controversial Barry Chamish to express his views and our right at Israel Insider to publish them. We respect the ability of our readers the right to decide for themselves regarding the merits of his arguments.

Following publication of the initial exchange, Pipes compounded his attempts at suppression -- this, too, and our response, is reprinted below.

The initial Israel Insider response to Daniel Pipes

Dear Dr. Pipes,
The trouble is that you, Jonathan Tobin and Steve Plaut apparently see yourselves as judge and jury for deciding who has a right to be published and who has a right to read what. If people disagree with you, your colleagues then "whisper" to your email lists about who is a "nasty loon" (to quote you about Barry Chamish) or (to quote Plaut about me) a "moron and a buffoon."

At least it makes an amusing rhyme.

Israel Insider has for four years, running daily, served as a forum for more than 500 writers from diverse points of view, contributing their perspective to show the diversity of views on and from Israel. You and Dr. Plaut and Mr. Tobin, who seem to be spearheading this smear campaign against Israel Insider for having the temerity to publish Barry Chamish's Lamentation for Adir Zik and some other pieces, are among them (each of you with more than 20 articles!).

http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/3873.htm (Pipes)
http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/4766.htm (Plaut)
http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/4880.htm (Tobin)

Obviously no one is challenging your right -- nor the right of any of your colleagues -- to submit or not submit to our publication. We provide an attractive and well-organized forum for your presentations and for our readers to talkback, and we have occasionally, and selectively, done the same for Mr. Chamish.

As an objective observer, I must say that your curious obsession with Chamish is perplexing. I understand that there is bad blood between you and a history of attacks and counter-attacks. But that doesn't quite explain why that needs to extend to attacking publications which publish his writings.

Surely you have enough outlets for your own opinions, without needing to squelch those of another writer who lacks the funding and connections that you enjoy! What is about Chamish's opinion that move you so to try to go to such great lengths to censor him, and us? Isn't it possible that he is right about some issues and wrong about others? Can't readers be allowed to distinguish for themselves?

I respect my readers, and fellow writers, editors and publishers enough to believe that they can read and form opinions and their own, without being censored or scared away by name-calling and gratuitous insults. Perhaps the "responsible right" -- to which you clearly believe you deserve to belong -- should assume also the responsibility to tolerate more dissent and differing opinions in our own ranks.

And when you write that I have "wildly attacked" you, you should either support that with at least one example of such an attack, or risk being dismissed as, well, paranoid or -- to use your own words -- a "nasty loon."

I have never written an insulting word against you personally, nor do I intend to. Although I do think you have not sufficiently explained your comment: "Should the [Israeli] government go ahead with the forcible removal of Jewish residents of Gaza, intra-Israeli violence appears to be a distinct possibility. Which in turn makes me wonder why the Israeli authorities do not take quite a different track and merely stop providing security for them." While I see that you have gone to great lengths to rationalize these comments, I am gratify to see that, in the end (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/287), you regret them and realize the error of your ways.

I hope this suffices to end this little campaign of you and your buddies. All of you are welcome to keep contributing to Israel Insider, as long as you stop trying to squelch the opinions of others. But if you or your colleagues decide not to publish, I am sure we will find a way to survive without you.

I am sure your correspondents can also form their own opinons about whether they wish to give in to your censorship and boycott attempts, and I welcome those who have not contributed to our publication to see Israel Insider as a tolerant and diverse platform for news and views about the future of Israel.

It is this we should be working on, not fighting among ourselves.

Shabbat shalom to all!

Reuven Koret
Publisher
Israel Insider

What preceded and prompted our response

-----Original Message-----
From: [Daniel Pipes] Meqmef@aol.com [mailto:Meqmef@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:32 AM
To: splaut@econ.haifa.ac.il; jtobin@jewishexponent.com
Cc: [list of 25 columnists]
Subject: Israel Insider and Chamish

In a message dated 10-Feb-05 2:31:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, splaut@econ.haifa.ac.il writes [quoting Koret]:

We Jews and journalists especially careful about ad hominem attacks. Read the pieces of Chamish and judge for yourself.

this is rich, coming from someone (Reuven Koret) defending Chamish who has for years been attacking wildly all sorts of people, including yours truly.

this is not a grudge match between Plaut and Chamish but an ugly situation in which of the responsible right need to disassociate ourselves from a nasty loon.

for anyone interested in more on this topic, see http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/189

Daniel Pipes

From: Steven Plaut [mailto:splaut@econ.haifa.ac.il]
To: Tobin, Jonathan
Cc: [list of 25 columnists]
Subject: I am ending all connections with Israel Insider and urge you to consider doing the same

I will no longer be publishing anything with Israel Insider. I suggest that you do the same. It is a disgrace to appear on the same pages with Barry Chamish. The editor of Israel Insider is a moron and a buffoon.
Steve Plaut

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Tobin, Jonathan wrote:

Steve:

I reached out to [the big-city columnist] and asked him to join us in writing to Koret about Chamish. He agreed and wrote to him today. Although I did not rate a reply from the great publisher, [big-city columnist] got one right back. Here it is, along with [big-city columnist]'s original e-mail.

All the best,

Jonathan

From: [big-city columnist]
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2005 2:12 PM
To: jstobinpa@aol.com
Subject: Re Chamish

Hi, Reuven,

I understand that Steve Plaut, Daniel Pipes, and Jonathan Tobin have been urging you to stop promoting the conspiracy theories of Barry Chamish on your web site. Please add my plea to theirs. I don't know Chamish personally, but his writing has always struck me as reckless and unsubstantiated. I wouldn't want people thinking that my commentary is as unreliable and outlandish as his. Please don't undermine the credibility of Israel Insider and your other commentators by including Chamish's bizarre material on the site. It only undercuts the effectiveness and seriousness of what you are trying to achieve.

All the best,

[Tobin:] Here's what Reuven wrote in response.


Dear [big city columnist], I think you're a great writer but I am sick of Plaut's whispering and poison-pen campaign. He and some of his buddies are clearly afraid of what Chamish writes. His campaign to ban Chamish lowers my respect for him, and raises my suspicions that Chamish is getting uncomfortably warm.....

I accept nothing Chamish says at face value, and I publish only a fraction of what he writes. I edit tough even when I do publish. But even paranoids have people out to get them.

The man has guts, good instincts, and has a veracity batting average at least as good as Plaut's.

Now he's not Ted Williams, but I think he is more or less onto the truth about the Rabin assassination, and I have found that some, not all, of his other "conspiracy theories" have at least grains of truth.

We Jews and journalists especially careful about ad hominem attacks. Read the pieces of Chamish and judge for yourself.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/4964.htm

Reuven

ADDENDUM: Dr. Pipes moves to suppress

Dear Mr. Koret:

In reference to your note to me, there is no "smear" campaign -- no one has said a bad word about your website -- but there was a quiet "pressure" campaign to get you to choose between Barry Chamish and several of us writers. You decided to go public with this, not us, a decision I wish you had not made.

I did not give you permission to quote my private letter, one not even addressed to you, on the internet, and I request you take it down immediately.
Yours sincerely,
Daniel Pipes

Insider Response: We are not so easily moved

Dr. Pipes,

A "private letter" sent around to twenty-five editors and columnists, urging them to take action to boycott or pressure a publication (whose name appears in the subject line) unless it censors a writer you and your friends don't like is not "going public"?

Your comment, and Plaut's, would qualify as belonging to the public domain in any court in the land (any land!). My citation of it, which refers to me personally in a depreciatory manner, is certainly within my rights, both in terms of free speech and fair use.

Do you think the phrase "moron and buffoon" (Plaut's words for the "Editor of Israel Insider," circulated in the letter that the pundits above received) qualifies as a "smear," or do you disavow all association with Plaut as "several of us writers?"

Indeed it is Tobin (who says he did it unintentionally) and Plaut (who certainly did it intentionally) who circulated my private response to Jacoby, much to [the big-city columnist's] chagrin and displeasure. He who lives in a glass house shouldn't thrown stones.

If you really want to bring this issue to broader attention, or to take legal action, I invite you to do so, as I think this whole affair only casts you and your colleagues in a most unfavorable light and brings even more attention to Mr. Chamish and his opinions, and to Israel Insider as a publication with the guts to take on those who would suppress unpopular opinions.

And I must further correct you when you say that I am defending Chamish. I am defending his right to express his opinion and my willingness at the publisher of Israel Insider to take on would-be bullies, backed by powerful organizations and interests, who use routinely use scare tactics and legal threats in an attempt to stifle free speech and freedom of the press.

Shabbat shalom.
Reuven Koret


Welcome to Fascist Israel - Part 2

Friday, July 15/05. I am invited to lecture in Gush Katif at the Neve Dekalim Community Center on Sunday, but two applications to the IDF have been turned down. The army doesn't want me in. On Sunday morning a way in was found, that better left unexplained. A rabbi asks that I come early to hear some vital information. On Sunday afternoon I was in Gush Katif for the first time in a week. How it had changed! The IDF had built huge bases in just one week and the trucks, bulldozers, tanks and sundry heavy equipment were parked for miles. All was ready for an attack. The August 15th date will prove to be another deception. The rape of Gush Katif will likely begin right after a rigged protest march ends on Wednesday. Meanwhile, there are no preparations for defence within Gush Katif. Nothing, not even jerrycans of fuel to raze their hothouses, was in place. Worse still, the residents are letting the army and police enter their villages freely. I'm aghast. Why are they letting their executioners have free rein of their villages? Why aren't they fighting back already? As I arrive, a Kassam rocket falls on Neve Dekelim 200 yards from me, badly wounding a Chabad rabbi. It is the fifth time he's been attacked and many residents tell me he is being targeted.


Before my lecture, I meet with three rabbinical scholars, and after the lecture with a former woman student of Rabbi Shlomo Aviner, one of the organizers of the last gasp protest march set for the next day. They have gathered damning evidence that Aviner is a Shabak plant inside the Yesha Council. They are certain he has already sabotaged the march beyond repair. The evidence is indeed damning. In one of his books, Aviner admits to working for an Israeli intelligence agency. He told the Maariv reporter Kalman Lipskind that, "Every now and then the Shabak asks me to write an article for them." As the case builds, one scholar makes the claim that Aviner is a Sabbataian. He notes that his name appeared on an internet list of Israeli freemasons. He has been brought before rabbinic courts for falsifying decrees concerning the correct time for marital relations. In the religious world, this is about as serious a charge as can be laid. It means he sanctioned children born into sin.
"And it's Aviner," I was told," who has been destroying the resistance movement from within. It is he who has ordered his soldier students to obey commands to attack us. It is he who has decreed no resistance to the police. And he is a major organizer of tomorrow's march, so you can be sure it will be a sham." The lecture hall is packed. I give the speech of my life. The audience is stunned but come question time, their meekness is revealed. One woman tells me no Jewish soldier would hurt another Jew. I answer that foreign soldiers wearing IDF uniforms will do the dirty work. Soldiers without ten words of Hebrew in their vocabulary, had already practised beating on protesters in Tsfat the week before.

The next day one of the audience, Doron, traveled to Kissufim Junction to talk to the soldiers. He phoned me right after. "You were right. They're not Israeli. They barely speak any Hebrew. One told me he was Spanish."
Another question; "You see conspiracies everywhere. Why should we believe you?"
"I see them only where they are provably real. And those tanks at your borders are as real as proof gets. What is the matter with you? You are back in Poland, 1942. The gestapo is primed to drag you out of your homes handcuffed and lead you away in trucks. Who do you want to believe, me or them?"
Question: "Then what can we do against all that power?"
Answer: "You can stand up and fight them like proud Jews defending your homes. If you go down, go down with dignity."
On the way back, I stop into Kfar Darom for refreshment from the oppressive heat. A beautiful stone synagogue stands nobly in the square. My host proudly notes, "We just finished it last month."
"Fine," I thought. "Now let's see you defend it."


Monday, July 18/05.

The roads to Netivot are packed, traffic is backed up for ten miles when it isn't completely stalled. We finally make it and the first person I see is my departed cousin's wife and her group. She has a story to tell:
"We were all on a bus to here when the Shabak raided it. They took away the driver's license and warned him if he kept driving, he'd never work again in his life. Then the driver ordered us all off the bus."

This same story was repeated all over the country. Thousands of people were forced off buses and not a one of them fought back. The sheep of 2005 Israel are the same sheep of 1942 Poland. Jews are far too suicidal a people to actually learn the lessons of their history.

The speakers mount the podium. Just as I was warned the day before, Rabbi Aviner appealed to the crowd not to defy the police, "who are our own flesh and blood." Without defying the police meant, of course, failure. The only, very only, way to save Gush Katif was to defy the police. Aviner did his nasty deed and was followed by Yesha Council bigwig Pinchas Wallerstein. It was Wallerstein who sent thousands of Yesha youth to wet, leaky, freezing tents in January to protest for a month outside the Knesset. The result, as anyone could have anticipated, was an utterly futile fiasco which visibly wore down the resistance of the protesters. Now it was July and he dusted off the same plan in reverse. This time, he would send the protesters marching in near 100 degree heat for two days to break their spirit. And if the day wasn't torturous enough, we were being bitten to shreds by mosquitos at night.

Wallerstein started speaking and he heard disinterested rumbling from the crowd. Quickly, he threw a tantrum, shouting, "Shut up! I'm talking! Pay attention!"
This man finally revealed his personal weakness: He is a certifiable nut job.
Seconds before the 6 km. march to Kfar Maimon is set to begin, there is a shocking announcement from the podium. The police will not permit the marchers to enter Kfar Maimon and camp. But the march will go on anyway.
"This is it, " I tell my companions, "It's the showdown. Get ready to breech police lines." I prepare myself in the car to be hurt or make it through unscathed, or be arrested trying. Whatever the result, I would stand with my fellow Jews and fight as hard as I knew how. Traffic to Kfar Maimon is blocked by the police, so we park and start walking to the police lines. It is a surreal hike. In the background are long rounds of machine gun fire, just to scare the protesters who brought their children. And there were lots of them. I thought, are they totally deluded? Was this just a picnic to them, a chance to sleep under the stars? They must have believed that the police would be so moved by the sight of their children that they would open the gates of Gush Katif to them.

As we approach the police lines, the march organizers run up and down the road beseeching the people to go back to their cars and be patient. Their attorneys had submitted a petition to the Supreme Court to let the march continue. That was it for me. I was going home. If this protest depended on the will of the Israeli "justice" system, I'd rather watch it on tv. Didn't anyone understand that there was no justice to be found anywhere in official Israel, t hat the government no longer had any moral authority over its people, that Israel as a nation was no longer to be respected or obeyed? A strange thought hit me. When American blacks sought justice in the mid-60s, they stood up like men and burnt their cities to the ground. And they got their way. The government spent hundreds of billions of dollars to compensate them for injustice and their civil rights were strictly enforced.

Only if a nation's infrastructure is threatened and its regime of crime possibly toppled, will governments be moved to take protests seriously. We get in the car and turn on the radio news. The first words were, "Fifty thousand settlers gathered..." I requested the radio be turned off. I couldn't handle the lies at that moment. I'm not a settler. My cousin's wife is not a settler. Half the people I met weren't settlers. This was a protest built to fail, but those who showed up were the only Israelis worth a damn anymore, not fifty thousand settlers.
On the way home I thought of some parting words for my fallen nation:
"Bye-bye Israel. You were too cowardly to stand up to fascism and deserved to go."

end

The fascism emanating from Israel hits New York. Recall that New York Giants running back came to Israel a few weeks back to spread peace for the Shimon Peres "peace" Center. I suggested calling up the Giants and letting them know that Israel was none of Barber's business and his visit to Peres was extremely unappreciated.
One reader did just that, informing a Giants spokesman that, in his own words,
"I TOLD HIM THAT HE IS BEING USED FOR PROPAGANDA, AND THEY ASKED FOR NEWS CLIPPING TO EFFECT.

Shortly after, "I Got a call back from them ( I did not leave a number, but they found my office number), then about out 5 min. ago I had a NFL security investigators at the office door, wanting to talk to me (lasted 1-1/2 hours)."
That's what happens when you express your opinion about Peres in America. Call and write the Giants and let them know you don't approve of Barber's interference or the barbarous treatment of one who disagreed with it.
mailtomdley@giants.nfl.net
(201) 935-8111

See Also: Welcome to Fascist Israel - Part 1

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